3 Things Every Woman Needs to Know about Spiritual Mothers, with Robyn McKelvy and Kay Barker

Do you have a spiritual mother? Are you serving as one? Discover three things you need to know about spiritual mothers in this inspiring episode featuring Robyn McKelvy and Kay Barker (Dannah's mom!). 

Episode Notes

“The Mighty Influence of a Praying Mom: Rhonwyn Kendrick’s Story”

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Erin Davis: Christian women need spiritual mothers, and I've got a question for you this morning: Do you have one? And are you serving as one? Today we're going to explore three things you need to do and know about having and being a Titus 2 woman. I'm Erin Davis.

Portia Collins: And I am Portia Collins.

Dannah Gresh: And I am Dannah Gresh. 

I've been thinking as we just celebrated Mother's Day, it sure can be a special day. But it can also be a painful day for so many of my friends. And either way, I've decided it's a good reminder that moms matter. And today, we want to consider how important spiritual mothers are because we believe that spiritual mothering matters.

Erin: Yeah. And that might be a whole new idea, a whole new term to you. You guys know the journey I'm walking with my mom, which makes Mother's Day painful. But for me, this adds some sweetness to that, that even when we don't have a mom in our life, or we haven't been the mom we want to be, or we're not a mom at all, we can be spiritual mothers. 

So spiritual mothering is (and I love this definition) a woman's unique response to the Great Commission. How can we go therefore and make disciples uniquely as women?

Dannah: Yeah. Go therefore and make disciples and teach them to obey everything. That’s what Titus 2 is all about. It's about older women teaching the younger women to be obedient to the commands of Christ. I absolutely believe that every woman needs a spiritual mother and every woman can be one—even if you think maybe that you can't be you can be one. I know our hearts crave it.

Erin: Right. Portia, do you have spiritual mothers?

Portia: I have a lot of spiritual mamas.

Erin: We probably have some of the same ones. 

Portia: I was going to say Nancy. I feel like she is one of my spiritual moms

Erin: Susan Hunt is a spiritual mother. There are many. Mary Kassian. I mean, there's so many women that we could honor here. I know Portia and Dannah, you do this so well—discipling women who are younger than you, so it's true. Our hearts crave this idea of being mothered spiritually and mothering others. There are so many women I know who are looking for a mentor will frequently ask me, “How do you even find one?”Because the problem is, there's not enough of us who want to be one. We might have the desire, and we don't know how to bridge that gap. So that's part of what this episode is about: bridging that gap between those of us who desire to be spiritual mothers and those who want to be trained up in godliness as the Scriptures teach us.

Dannah: That's right Erin. I have one of the best spiritual mothers that I've ever known here with me today in my home studio. My mother is here. Kay Barker. She's a spiritual mother to many, including me. She's gonna help me share some good news which is so good. We're saving it for later in the program. But she has a very transparent story about wanting to retire from spiritual mothering. I just can't wait to introduce her to you my Grounded sisters. In fact, another thing I can't wait for you to see is our Mother's Day gift to you. We've got a touching video about the power of one praying woman. In fact, it's our most popular YouTube video of all time at Revive Our Hearts, and you're gonna see why at the end of this episode. 

Erin: It’s so good. 

Portia: Yeah, but first . . . You guys thought I was gonna say, but first some good news. I'm not gonna say that today. 

Erin: Switching it up. 

Portia: But first, we're gonna get grounded in God's people. Today's guest needs no introduction. You already know her. You love her. Robyn McKelvey is with us today. She is a mother of, get this, actually 17 children—10 living and 7 in heaven. And she's honestly a spiritual mother to a whole lot more. Alright, she's a pastor's wife, a Bible teacher. And she'll teach us the first thing you need to know about spiritual mothering. We think it could be the secret to closing that gap that Erin mentioned. So good morning, Robyn. 

Robyn McKelvy: Good morning, Portia. Good to see you. 

Portia: It is good to see you. I can tell you, though, that I was thinking that you are becoming one of my spiritual moms. Every time I hear you teach or speak or anything, I'm like, I just want to sit and talk to her, like, all the time. 

Robyn: I think your great starts with a big hug.

Portia: Now, see, I'm about to show up at your house. I'm gonna show up. You’ve got to open the door, and I'm gonna be standing on your front porch. Well, I think one reason that women do not step up to the plate to be a spiritual mother or a mentor is because they really fear that they are not equipped or qualified. What would you say to her?

Robyn: I would say to any mom that doesn't feel like she's qualified, she can hear even if she's deaf, she can be a spiritual mom. What our young people want and desire is somebody to hear their cries, and then somebody to just be with them. If you know how to pray, and you know how to listen, you are qualified to be a spiritual mom.

Portia: See, it’s so simple already. If you know how to pray and listen, then you are qualified. Absolutely. Absolutely. 

Well, another reason and maybe you know, there's some validity to this. But momming kids at home keeps us very busy. I know we've only got one and she's four, an only child. Okay. Sometimes we are too busy to invest in others outside of the home. So, what would you say to that woman?

Robyn: I think it's time for some of us older women to invest in her. One of the most beautiful things that I had when I was coming up was this one lady. The beauty of a spiritual mom, it doesn't matter the race, color, creed, all you want is somebody to come alongside you. This particular lady would come over to my house and match socks for me.

I had a bunch of kids and socks were always missing. I put them in a large bag, a trash bag, and she would come over and match socks for me. In the matching of the socks, she would listen and talk and pray with me. She would listen and talk and play with my kids. 

Now, when I count my spiritual moms, that lady that came over to love me by matching socks, was one of my spiritual moms. That's what I needed. My biological mom wasn't capable of doing it at that time. 

Portia: Wow, that is profound. Because first of all, I feel like I'm always buried beneath the power of clothes. You never think of things being that simple, like spiritual mothering being that simple, but it is relationship. That's such an excellent way to build relationships. 

So, let me ask you this, you now have adult children. Some of them I know are married or in a serious relationship. And that's like a totally different season. How can a woman invest in the spiritual lives of their daughters and their sons-in-law?

Robyn: Well, I think it's important. I have sons-in-law, and I love them dearly. Just like I text and call my daughters, I text and call my sons-in-law. I want to know what's going on in their lives. I want to be able to pray for them. 

It's really sweet when your son-in-law calls you because he knows you're gonna pray. I think we have this confused, that spiritual, godly women can only invest in other spiritual women. You’re called to be a highly spiritual women to children, whether they be male or female. 

And so, I get to be this mom that some of my sons-in-law, my particular one of my sons-in-law who didn't grow up in a Christian home. And so, he sees a different kind of woman or should see a different kind of woman in me than he saw in his mom. And so, he doesn't mind picking up that phone and calling me at all. I think that's so important, because I want to love him, and I want to leave a legacy that's personal between us. He may not have that mama growing up, but he could say, “I know who will pray, who will listen, who will love in spite of the stuff.”

I think that's the key. Learn how to love people in spite of their stuff. Because we get to display to all of those people in our spiritual mothering, the love of Jesus Christ. And His love is unconditional. He doesn't based on the fact that you're gonna get it right today or get it right in the next hour. He demonstrates His love even when we were sinners; He loved us enough to die for us. That's the kind of the kind of love I want to show those in my life, whether they be sons-in-law, or daughters-in-law.

Portia: Absolutely. I love it. Well, another thing is, you are very, very good at helping us to think practically. I want you to share some of the things that you do to open the door to discipleship with women who aren't your biological children. You kind of already alluded to this a little bit in how you talked about what you're modeling for your sons-in-law. But like, give it to me, how do you open that door to reach out to a woman that's not your daughter, who may not have a direct personal relationship with?

Robyn: Well,  I think it's important to understand and know who you are. You’re daughters of the King of kings and Lord of lords. And as a result, we get to display that everywhere we go. So, I am looking for the hurting woman that may be at the grocery store. I'm looking for her on purpose. I'm asking the Lord to give me some clarity on looking for those people that may not be seen. And so, on purpose, you're going out and you're representing Christ. 

Same thing at church. You can see those people at church that are sitting in the back. That's where I start and introduce myself. Those are the people that I want to go and start introducing myself to first. I mean, I know some saints in the church. I know the saints that love Jesus in the church. But there's somebody sitting on the back row of the last seat of the pew at church. They want to hide; they don't want to be seen. 

I'm going to tell you something. So far, nobody at church or at the store or wherever I am, even I've gone to restaurants . . . I’ve loved people. I see arguments happen. I'm getting up and going out and talking to somebody that I think was just wounded in a big way. And so far, I've never been cussed out. I've never been socked. I've never had a nosebleed. I think we do what's comfortable for us. I know I said this before. It's time for us to get uncomfortable and love people around us. We get to represent Christ to them.

Portia: Yeah, absolutely. So, tell me, name the ladies that have been spiritual moms to you.

Robyn: Now, some you're going to know, some you're not going to know, because some are in a church, some have gone on. Some are sitting in a church loving on other women. I can say the first person was my grandmother. My grandmother was crazy for Jesus. I’m like, I want to be like her; I want to be sold out like my grandmother. So that's one nobody's ever heard her name. Her name is Nanny May Hughes. She died in 1985. But I still think of her and her commitment to Christ, as I walk this road down at 60. 

Another one, I noticed her relationship that she had with the Lord. And so, I kind of inched my way into her life. I could play piano, and she was a singer. She invited me over to her house. She lived far away from me. I didn't care, because I could go to her house and find out, “How do you love Christ the way you do?” Her name is Ethel Paige. 

Another woman was when my husband was in seminary. We went to Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship, Lois Evans. I'll never forget her coming to my house. I cooked greens, and I wasn't good at cooking greens. They were like there’s some sand down there. But she was eating up the pot. I'll never forget the realness, the genuineness. The list can go on and on. Those are three, but there's probably 30 or 40 more.

Portia: Well, you have tickled me, because look, there's got to be some good mothering and some love there to eat some sandy greens. Robyn, you have been a joy.

Robyn: Look, she ate them. This young cook back, you know, 30-something years ago, I just wanted to do something. I tried something new. That's what impressed me. She was real enough to eat and crunch on the sand. 

Portia: Eat and crunch on the sand. I will say I have had some moments like that with my grandmother. My grandmother was a top-notch cook. But I was not when I first started off, but she did not make me feel bad. She encouraged me. That gentleness nurtured me. So yeah, I'm grateful. I'm grateful for her. I'm grateful for you. 

I just want to finish off our time by asking you to pray. Pray for the women who you know maybe are intimidated about becoming a spiritual mom. Pray for all of us. Pray for the mamas to littles. Let's go to the Lord.

Robyn: Father, thank You so much for making us a part of your family. And Lord, as a result of being a part of Your family, You promised that You would never leave us, You wouldn't forsake us. So, for the women out there that are young in their mothering, I pray that You would give them wisdom and boldness. Lord, teach them how to count on falling on their knees for whatever decision or whatever situation they find themselves in. 

And then Lord for ladies that may be older women, 40 or 50 or above. You know who they are. Lord, give them that desire to be women that bring other women along with them. Lord, You didn't make us to walk this road by ourselves? You even modeled that by having disciples. Father, You even made Eve so Adam wouldn't be alone. It was not Your desire for us to walk this alone. 

So, Lord, teach us how to trust You in finding mentors, and then teach mentors how to just step out of their comfort zones and be the godly women that You've called us all to be. That's part of walking this world with You, by sharing with others so others would know You differently as a result of our contribution. Thank You for giving us the ability to even contribute. Thank You for the wisdom that comes from You. I pray that we would all just continue to build each other up, as You tell us to do, and encourage each other. In Jesus’ name.

Portia: Amen. Amen. Thank you so much for being with us. Robyn, you are awesome. I thank you for being a spiritual mom to so many. 

Robyn: God bless you. 

Portia: Well, let me say this outright, the first thing that you need to know, and we can see from this conversation we just had with Robyn, the first thing that you need to know about spiritual mothering is you don't have to be a super saint to be one. Okay? 

So step up, look around. Who is God putting on your heart or planting in your life? Who could benefit from the miles that you've walked with Jesus? If you're still not convinced that God wants you to be mentoring a younger woman, Erin is about to come and take us to church. She's going to open up her Bible and help us rethink a familiar story from the Gospels. 

Erin: Portia, that interview with Robyn was a pretty good picture of what spiritual mothering is. Like, phones were ringing, people were telling stories. And that's just the way it is. Don't expect it to be a carved-out moment of time where there's no distractions and the lattes are flowing. We fold it right into our normal life. 

Well, we all want to know that our investment matters. Investing in other people doesn't always come with a bar graph where you can see: I started spending time with this woman and look at all of the ways her life has improved, or how my life has improved. We can't always clearly see if we've made a difference or not. That can make us want to quit on this idea of being spiritual mothers.

I have a lot of people my age (I'm in my early 40s), we were maybe excited about this idea of spiritual mothering in our 30s, we tried it. But we're not sure it made any difference at all, so we gave up on that idea. 

And listen, if that's you, I'm going to take us to a story from the gospels that I hope that you can see with fresh eyes. Because in every single area of our lives, our marriages, our work, our friendships, and our spiritual mothering, our job is to be obedient. We must trust the fruit of that to God. I've learned that I especially need to do this as I spiritually mother. 

Now with my boys at home, at least we've got the growth charts where we mark their heads. I can see that they're growing physically, I can see that the Lord is maturing them into young men. I can see how much they've changed from when they were in my tummy to now. And so, I can see growth. 

But as I attempt to be a spiritual mother, I can't always see growth. I will end up carrying an unreasonable load on my shoulders of trying to be the one that creates change or even worse. This is so ugly, this is an ugly part of my heart. I will take on a martyr mentality, a sense of entitlement that I should be acknowledged, I should be praised. Don't you see all the things I'm doing for you? Yucky.

So, one of my favorite stories about the impact of one woman never mentions a woman. It's found in John chapter 6, go ahead and turn there. And very likely there is a heading in your Bible above John chapter 6. Mine says, “Jesus feeds the 5,000.”

Now, this is Jesus's one of his most famous miracles aside from the resurrection. It's the only one of Jesus's miracles that's recorded in all four Gospels. There would have been good news in the Galilee Gazette. Please excuse my lame joke. 

But you likely know the story. Jesus took just five barley loaves and two little fishes. He multiplied them actually not to feed 5,000 people, even though that's how we've been told the story goes. 5,000 men Scripture says, plus women and children. So, it was more like 10,000 20,000, 30,000 people that Jesus fed with those five loaves and those two little fishes. And in fact, there was so much food that there were 12 baskets full of leftovers. I do love leftovers. 

And what does this have to do with our impact as women? Well, this morning I want you to look very closely at verse 9. John chapter 6, verse 9, says this, “There is a boy here who has five barley loaves and two fish, but what are they for so many?”

Jesus multiplied the contents of one boy's lunch, that was the disciples talking. Jesus told them to get some food, they said, we can't get some food. There's no McDonald's here. There's no McDonald's at all. They find this little boy has a packed lunch. 

Now, I'm going to make an assumption. Based on 14 plus years of raising my own boys, a mama packed that lunch. My boys never remember to pack food for themselves. I should say, that's not true. Judah tried to pack his own lunch this morning. What he packed was three Kit Kats, and two slices of cheese. 

So, even though my boys are always hungry, they never remember to pack food. And if they do remember to pack food, it's not something quite as balanced as barley loaves and fishes. It's more like American slice cheese and a handful of Kit Kats. 

Again, I'm using my imagination of it, but it is very likely that this miracle that's so famous began with one mother doing something very mundane, something she had probably done a thousand times before, something that I am sure her boy did not pat her on the back for. She packed him lunch. She handed it to him as he went to listen to the Messiah teach. 

Mom packed the lunch. The disciples noticed the lunch. Jesus multiplied the lunch. And then what happened? Listen to verse 14, “When the people saw the sign that he had done, they said, “This is indeed the Prophet [capital P] who is to come into the world!” Many came to saving faith in Jesus Christ. 

That's how mom math works. Whether it's your own children and grandchildren or spiritual children that the Lord is brought into your life that probably aren't children anymore. Motherhood, physical or spiritual, is not a have to. It is a get to. It's true that we don't often see how God multiplies our faithfulness, but we can trust that He does, because that's who He is. He uses our obedience often when we are obedient in the must most mundane things. 

I love that story of the woman bringing the trash bag of socks to match. Please come to my house next! That is such a mundane task. I can't bring myself to do it. 

God uses us being obedient in the mundane to win people to him. But what do you have to do to be a spiritual mother? It might be as simple as packing a lunch. 

Dannah and her mom Kay have such a sweet story about the impact of one woman and listen. I've known Kay for a very long time. She is among those spiritual mothers in my life. You're in for a treat, Grounded sisters. Dannah and Kay, take it away.

Dannah: Here she is! Look who is with me, Erin! 

Erin: This is very exciting! People don’t know how exciting this is. I'm excited.

Dannah: I'm excited, too. Grounded sisters, meet my mom. You can call her Kay, Kay Barker. Hi Mom.

Kay Barker: Hi, everybody.

Dannah: We want to share today's good news together. But first before we share the good news, something is threatening spiritual mothering. I feel like we're always starting out with the bad news, but somehow, that's what makes the good news so good. 

Anyway, the thing that's threatening spiritual mothering has a name: online tribalism. As influencers become a buzzword. And I mean, influencers as in the word influencers, becomes a buzzword in social media. Christian women aren't exempt. More and more they're turning to online spiritual mothers in the age of the internet. I can't help but pick on my cohost Portia and Erin here, because at the beginning, they started bantering and talking about people. They named authors and people with podcasts and platforms. It's very natural for us to do that. 

Here's the problem with that. If you're not fitting in at your church, or you can't find someone in your church or your community to mentor you. You say, not to worry, I'll just follow one of the mothers of mothers whose videos are seen by a million at a time. And you think they're happy to be my own personal Titus 2 woman? Here's the problem with that. They don't know you. They can't listen to your problems. They won't be able to apply the Scripture to your life, practically and specifically. 

And let's be honest, okay? We're all prone to follow someone who says what we want to hear, not what we really need to hear. We find an online tribe that thinks like us, rather than an individual mentor who will test what we think against God's Word. 

And one of the reasons when I talked to my friends about the reason they're flocking to online tribes is this: their own spiritual mother is aging out. And that's the problem we want to address in our good news segment today. Mom, you're one of the best spiritual mothers I know. I love you. Yeah, you've been my spiritual mother. You've taught me to love the Word. But I've watched you mentor lots of other women too. So, tell us about your burden to mentor younger women. Where does it come from?

Kay: Well, I think it comes from a time when I was mentored and needed to be mentored. I was a young mother, a new Christian. There were three women in a church that just walked beside me when I needed that. One would call me. She had seven or eight children. She'd say, “Hey, can Dannah come and play today.” That wasn't just because the kids wanted to play. It was because she knew I had a need. And I see that now. I remembered that. It was so important to me, getting me through those years. So, I think my mentoring desire to mentor, mentor other young women, especially comes from that time when I knew that's what I had needed.

Dannah: Maybe she just thought I was fun to have around.

Kay: Well, you were. You always were.

Dannah: Well, a few years ago, I guess I'll let you admit this, but you kind of felt like, even though you've had this burden to mentor women, because you've been mentored, and you've done it so well, all these years, you started to feel like, would it be safe to say, you felt like retiring?

Kay: I guess so. I've always been in Bible studies. This was called Soup for the Soul. Our church had a group of ladies, about 20-30 women. We'd meet once a week or once every other week, and we'd have soup. Then we break up into small groups and share the Word. Some of the women my age were dropping out for various reasons, and a lot more younger women were coming into the group. I thought maybe I should reconsider next year if I want to be with someone my age that can relate to me where I'm at. 

And so, I started considering that. I didn't pray about it to be honest. I was, “Yes, I know. I know. I was trying to make up my own mind.” 

And so, when it came fall, it was time to go to the church community group and decide which study we were going to go into that year. For that year, I was looking at the older women's groups. But that didn't happen. 

Dannah: Why? 

Kay: Well, about a week before the studies were to start up, one of the women from Soup for the Soul, she was the leader, an incredible woman who leads well, and I love her so much. She called me. We didn't know each other very well at the time. She said, “Kay, our host home is not able to do it this year. And for some reason, every time I pray about it, it seems like your name comes up. Would you be able to host our Soup for the Soul this year?” And I just . . .

Dannah: Busted. 

Kay: I know. And so, I said, “I'll pray about that.” Right? 

Dannah: Which a lot of times is codeword for “no way.”

Kay: It was, I think to be honest. So we hung up the phone, and I very clearly heard the Holy Spirit speak to my heart. And this is what I heard. “If you won't go to them, I'll bring them to you.” 

Dannah: Oh . . .

Kay: So, I knew the answer.

Dannah: That's really cool. 

Kay: Yeah.

Dannah: So, when you tried to retire, the Holy Spirit got in the way and orchestrated it so that you couldn't. 

Kay: That's right. 

Dannah: Has the Lord blessed it? I mean, I know here we are. It's been like five, six years since that, right, because He blessed it?

Kay: Incredibly. We had a few years in my home before COVID. We had about 30 women every single time that we met, and we became very close. It was just a wonderful time. I loved opening up my home. I loved having the younger women there. And God's Word spoke to us. It was just a wonderful time.

Dannah: I know there were times when that Bible study time would end and those young women would be on your floor in your living room, face before God, until 10 or 11 o'clock at night. 

Kay: They did.

Dannah: Keeping you up way past your bedtime. 

Kay: 9:30 . . . way past, you know.

Dannah: But you loved it.

Kay: I did. Yeah. And one night one of the gals said, “Should I tell them to go home?” I said, “No. God's meeting right here in my living room. Let them alone.” 

Dannah: Yeah. I love it. It's been a joy to watch the Lord use your gift. I think when somebody's as gifted at spiritual mothering as you are, there's no way He's going to let you retire. And here's the third thing you need to know about spiritual mothering. I know we haven't told you the second thing. This is the second thing you need to know about spiritual mothering. My math is not my forte. 

Kay: No, no, it never was.

Dannah: The second thing you need to know about spiritual mothering is just like real life mothering. That task doesn't end. You don't get to retire. The Lord may change how you mentor. He may bring them to your home so that they're right there in front of you. But you never age out of modeling the Christian life for others and teaching younger women to obey the Lord. Kay Barker, you are my good news. Because you're modeling something really important, finishing strong. And I want to be like that. 

And God invites you to be like that too. It is our great privilege to spiritually nurture those growing in the faith behind us. As we cooperate with God's great redemption plan by fulfilling the Great Commission, it's our honor as women as we consider spreading the Good News to this last world. Getting to do that, cooperating with the good news, is the best news that there is. Don't you guys think?

Erin: Good as if I needed another reason to want to move to Pennsylvania, face down prayers in Kay Barker's living room is it. 

Dannah: Yeah.

Erin: Pretty high on the list. Thank you Dannah for calling us out on announcing our famous spiritual mothers. I'd also add Rhonda and Nancy Yuri and Tippi to the list of women you will never meet who are hidden in my church. But one thing Tippi has told me often (it's actually a Kay Arthur quote) is, “There's no retirement in times of war.” I just love them as we think about being spiritual mothers.

Dannah: This is awesome. What a great program today. I'm a teacher at heart, so we got to review. We said at the top of the time that we would give you three things you need to know about being a spiritual mother. Portia and Robyn talked about the fact that you don't have to be a saint to be one. I mean, if you're good at sorting socks . . .

Erin: Hallelujah!

Dannah: If you’re good at sorting socks, you can be a spiritual mother.

Erin: If you're not good at folding socks, you could also still be one.

Dannah: And as mom and I just discussed, you don't retire when you’re a spiritual mom. We're about to show you number three in just a moment. So, sit tight.

Erin: Yeah. But first, we do want to invite you to come right back next week. Emily Jenson and Laura Whifler are going to be dropping by. You might know them as the Risen Motherhood, ladies. They've done some really fascinating research. In fact, they've surveyed 7,000 mothers, and they've got a lot to teach us about the state of Christian motherhood. They're going to tell us what a mother's greatest need is. It's not folded socks, it's not sand-free greens, all though those things are nice to have too. But really, mother or not. This episode is going to be really fascinating for all of us, so don't miss it.

Portia: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Well, to wrap up this episode, here is the third thing you need to know about spiritual mothering, prayer is our primary work. And you don't have to take my word for it. I want you to hear from Rhonwyn Kendrick. Her story is going to inspire you. She is the mother of the Kendrick Brothers, who brought us great movies like Fireproof and Facing the Giants. And in fact, you're going to actually hear from Stephen Kendrick in this special piece produce. They're narrated by our guy, Hugh Duncan. Hugh is one of the producers of Grounded. I know that you will be inspired. Like, specifically by the mighty influence of a praying mama. With over 2 million views, you'll see why this video has inspired so many women, some with children of their own, some without, to become praying mamas. So this is our Mother's Day gift to you.

Watch: The Mighty Influence of a Praying Mom

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