Lighting a Candle When Life Feels Dark, with Carol Anne Beck
If your heart is heavy this Christmas, let us point you to the one source of true hope. (Plus, join us for a digital candlelight service!) Find it all in this edition of Grounded.
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Dannah Gresh: Hey there, welcome to the first ever Grounded candlelight service. I am Dannah Gresh.
Erin Davis: And I am Erin Davis. We are eager to spend some time with you on this Monday before Christmas. What are we gonna talk about? We could talk about so many things this week. But I want to talk about a little Instagram post I did last week, which was actually a result of chewing on something that you and I have been talking about a lot. Dannah, do you know where I'm taking this?
Dannah: Oh, I know …
If your heart is heavy this Christmas, let us point you to the one source of true hope. (Plus, join us for a digital candlelight service!) Find it all in this edition of Grounded.
Episode Notes
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Dannah Gresh: Hey there, welcome to the first ever Grounded candlelight service. I am Dannah Gresh.
Erin Davis: And I am Erin Davis. We are eager to spend some time with you on this Monday before Christmas. What are we gonna talk about? We could talk about so many things this week. But I want to talk about a little Instagram post I did last week, which was actually a result of chewing on something that you and I have been talking about a lot. Dannah, do you know where I'm taking this?
Dannah: Oh, I know exactly where you're going. Because well, we should probably just say it like it is. Let's just rip off the Band-Aid. I feel like we're really careful, all of us on social media. You see it in church. You hear it on Grounded and Revive Our Hearts, we are careful to mention that people that are experiencing sadness at Christmas. We're so careful about that, that sometimes I think we risk forgetting to celebrate Jesus. I mean, I am mindful. I have experienced how the extra celebratory spirit can really feel like salt in a deep wound. And in fact, right now, I have a friend whose mom died this month, and I'm grieving with her. And somehow, I know it, the grief is lonelier simply because it's surrounded by so much happy.
Erin: Yeah, that's true. Do we want to acknowledge it? We've been intentional about acknowledging it on Grounded already this month. But somewhere along the way, I think I realized like, oh, we've missed something really important. Last week, I just got a glimpse of my tree. I was just sharing with my Grounded girls that my husband bought me a new tree. We had a yard sale version for all twenty years of our marriage until this year, and it has a light on it. And then the nativity was on the mantel. By the way, every single piece of that in the nativity has now been glued back together by my man. So yeah, shepherds are back. We've got the manger, the baby Jesus is still waiting to be born in.
Dannah: But you know, it was the white light and the fire in the fireplace. I did feel this overwhelm not of sadness, but of sweetness, of joy. But I also felt like I needed to ask permission to feel that joy, because so many people are talking about the sadness of the season.
So, I snapped a picture of what I put on Instagram. Here's a little bit of what I wrote. I said,
We are the keepers of true hope. This is our moment. When we appear to the manger, we don't just see a baby who represents our deepest dreams. We see our real king wrapped in swaddling clothes. Emanuel is more than a message for our Christmas gift tags. It's true. God really is with us.
And then I said,
In our attempt to not downplay reality, I think we’ve forgotten to shout our joy from the rooftop.
I actually ministered to a group of college-aged women this weekend. There was some Q&A time afterwards. And one of them raised her hand kind of timidly. She goes, “Do you ever feel guilty for thriving?” And I thought, What a profound question and one for us to think through. Oh, yeah, because we head to Christmas this week.
Erin: You know, I have a friend named Leah whose husband died really close to Christmas. She would tell you this, and I've heard her say it over and over again. The sadness of whatever you're experiencing is the very reason we need to tell it from the mountains that Jesus Christ is born. He's gonna sing that song.
Dannah: Jesus, His birth is the solution to all the sadness you've ever known and all your life, all the grief, all the heartache, it's just proof that we needed Him to come. And when you think about that, there's so much joy to be experienced. Joy and sadness, we're going to talk about how to hold those two tensions in a way that points to the great gift we have in Jesus Christ.
Erin: That’s what they are. They work together, not that they are opposed to each other. We had a family gathering this weekend that my mom would have been the planner of. She would have been in the center of it. She would have hugged every grandbaby. I missed her, but my husband's really good remind me that that sadness is so deep because she was so wonderful. She brought so much joy to so many years of holidays.
So, I love this. Let's shift our thinking that we don't have to choose joy or sadness; that we can celebrate. Our guest today is Carol Anne Beck. She has some life experience navigating, holding those two tensions—to have very real sorrow, but she also has the joy of Jesus. She's going to share the secret to that this morning.
We actually had a full episode planned. We had another guest lined up to join us, and she actually is heading into some incredible grief. I won't share it with you because she didn't give me permission to do that. But she's gonna have to live out what she was going to share with us this week.
Robyn and Ray were supposed to be with us for this Christmas edition. Robyn texted me this morning and said, “Me and Ray are in the bed. It is bad; we are sick.” So, I wanted you to know that that was happening so you could pray for them. They want to be here, they would be here if they could. But I am so confident that this is going to be a really beautiful and hope-filled episode.
Dannah: Yeah, and it's not a listen while you fold laundry kind of episode. It's a get your Bible, get some peppermint mocha, and get your candle. Grab yourself a candle; we're going to do something really special with them at the end.This is the Grounded in candlelight service. We want you to participate with us, interact. We chatted in the comments. As always, tell us where are you experiencing that tension of joy and sorrow this season?
Erin: You know, Joyce can take contagious among the people of God. So you sharing your joy with us it doesn't hurt sharing our joy with you. We really could turn up the dial on joy, and I'm always trying to picture what's going on around the world as women are watching Grounded. And as we light candles together this morning. I like that image of women all over the world. lighting candles together because the Light has come.
So, it's gonna be a short, sweet, powerful episode. That's our gift to you this Christmas. We've talked a long time, and we've been missing our girl Portia all this time. So, Portia come home.
Portia Collins: Hey, you know, I'm super excited about this episode, because I know that there are a lot of people who are hurting. But there's just something about getting together with you girls and with our Grounded sisters that it's such an encouragement. I guess it's like that joy that you experience in community.
And so, I'm excited about our candlelight service and just pointing to Jesus, yeah and all the things. It’s gonna be good, absolutely.
But first, you know what, I got some good news. And here's a sentence that I didn't really expect. Today's good news is one for all the sports fans, specifically for all of those who are soccer fans. Did I lose you? Okay, I confess, I am not much of a sports watcher myself. Alright. If you know me, I'm not your girl. But do you know what I am a fan of? The gospel. You've probably seen coverage of the World Cup all over the news. There have been 32 teams participating from all over the world. And this global soccer tournament just wrapped up yesterday with Argentina taking home the trophy. And you don't have to watch it to hear that news story.
Here's the good news you might not have seen. Jesse Bradley is the lead pastor at a church in Auburn, Washington. He and his church launched a digital campaign that featured six second clips of the World Cup, followed by Pastor Bradley's testimony.
So, get this, he was a professional soccer player who served as a goalkeeper for the U.S. team. He had a near death experience that gave him a new passion for reaching people for Christ. Check out what Pastor Bradley said. He said stories are powerful, and every one has a significant story. You have a powerful story. And when you share, we learn more about God, and we appreciate God. We see how God works and how he transforms our lives. Amen.
And so, what was the result of this digital campaign? Get this: To date, more than 18,000 World Cup fans have surrendered their lives to Christ since the World Cup began through this particular outreach.
Okay, did y'all hear me? 18,000 over the years since this particular outreach began. 18,000 new followers of Jesus who sat down just to watch soccer, and they were ushered into the kingdom. How amazing. Well, Bradley partnered with other ministries to make sure that these new Christians are plugged into a Bible teaching church. And he said, “It's not about decisions. It's about making disciples.” Man, I like this man. I like this guy. So sports fan or not, I think we can all agree, that's some really good news! Right, Dannah?
Dannah: Oh, you bet. You bet. That's good news. Right, Erin.
Erin: Right. Do we all love it? Any of us? Hey, I watched that. I am not a sports girl. I didn't play; let's be real.
Dannah: We should not talk about me playing soccer in high school because you know it's don't. But you get that victory yesterday was a moment. I mean, that's what I want my worship to be like when my family responded to that victory for Argentina. Oh, that's what I want my worship to be like on Sunday mornings.
Erin: Because the world was watching. I'm so grateful that the Holy Spirit gave that pastor the creativity to think of how to use that moment. Yeah, souls to Jesus. So very, very good news.
Well, it's time to get grounded with God's people. “We've got to ask my friend Carol Anne.” That's what Hannah said. Hannah is the one working behind the scenes to book all of our guests and communicate with them. And when she heard that we were doing this episode the week of Christmas, on holding that tension between joy and grief, celebration and sorrow. She said, “You’ve got to ask my friend Carol Anne. She has such a heart for you grounded friends. She has been with us since that very first episode.” She wanted you to hear Carol Anne and her story. So welcome to Grounded Carol Anne and Merry Christmas.
Carol Anne Beck: Merry Christmas. Thank you so much, ladies. And thank you, Hannah.
Erin: She's a gem. Can you tell us about your husband, Matt? What kind of guy was he?
Carol Anne: Oh, goodness, he wasn't one of those guys that could come quietly into a room. Bless his heart. He was the life of the party wherever he went. But the thing that stood out to me most was I watched God shape.
We actually met when we were babies. Our dads grew up together. We like to tell people that we had an arranged marriage, which wasn't super far from the truth, but not really.
So, we knew each other growing up, but didn't grow up together. We were in separate states. We didn't become friends until college. But we became very, very quick friends. He was so good at loving people, even though he was always going to be the loudest person in the room. He was so good at coming in and listening to people and loving people and truly letting them know that he loved them. So that's really the kind of guy that he was. He just drew people to him all over the place.
Erin: What a great description. Now, you and Matt got married in 2015. But what happened in December of 2017?
Carol Anne: Matt and I'd actually traveled for a living with an evangelistic ministry team. We were off the road for that Christmas season. We had about a month. We were visiting my family down in Alabama. It was a Sunday morning, December 17, so we went to church and realized that we had forgotten our Bibles at home. So, Matt zipped home real quick. It was just a five-minute trip. The service was starting, and he wasn't back yet, which was very unlike him. But honestly, I just thought that he was talking with someone in the foyer, which was very much like him. But when we were a bit into the service, and he wasn't coming in, which was something that he prioritized, I left to go and try and find him.
I took my phone and called him, and he didn't answer. Just then, someone came into the church and let me know that they had found my car on the side of the road, just a few minutes up the road.
So, my sister and my brother-in-law put me in the car and we drove up the road actually to find the wreck. It was there that the police officers told me he wasn't okay. He probably died on impact.
Erin: I want to come back to the fact that he was going to get Bibles to bring the church here in a moment. But as we're telling this story, you and Matt had a brand-new baby, Asa. Tell me what Christmas was like for you and your baby boy that year.
Carol Anne: I don't remember a whole lot. At the crash site I never did see Matt. But I did see the car and stood there for a while crying. Someone brought, Asa to me. When Asa was in my arms, I just was weeping. I think just shy of 15 months at the time. I felt like he was just my big grown-up boy. But now that I have a little girl who's just past that point, I'm like, oh my goodness, he was a baby. He leaned up and just wiped my tears away. He really was the first one to wipe my tears away.
Erin: Wow.
Carol Anne: I don't remember a whole lot in all honesty. I don't remember a whole lot of him that first Christmas I had. My family and my in-law family were both so sweet and involved in caring for him. They helped a ton with him. One very vivid memory I do have was sitting in the midst of everyone opening presents and enjoying life. I didn't feel it because it was just one week prior. But I remember holding Asa, and I'd had a moment where I just confessed out loud to God, “I don't know what to do. I just wish Matt could tell me what to do.” We didn't ever talk about this because we were just shy of two-and-a-half years married. You don't have those types of conversations when you're that young.
It was like I heard an audible voice. I don't mean to be super mystical, but really, it was like I heard an audible voice, “Love God and love Asa.” And if I could do those two things, I would be okay. Love God first, and love Asa. And so through those blurry first several days and weeks, that's really what I set my heart to do: love God, and love Asa.
Erin: I don't want to rush past this beautiful tender story. I didn't know the part about your husband leaving church to get your Bibles. That's hard to understand how a good God would allow a man who loved him, loved his family, and was just running home to get his Bible could die in that journey. I personally am dealing with a little bit of anger myself. My mama is deep in the throes of Alzheimer's. It doesn't seem fair, either, that my grandchildren won't know her. Things have changed so much. I'm sure you wrestled with some of those. Did you feel anger? Did you feel questions? What were the layers in your heart? I'm sure it is blurry. But if you look back . . .
Carol Anne: I had all of the emotions. I am so thankful for the rich discipleship that God placed me under that originally gave me truths, of giving me the Holy Spirit that gives me a desire to pursue God Himself. And truth. I do remember one of the very first calls I had (I was inundated with calls and messages from loving people that were swarming me with presence and most importantly with prayer). I told one of my friends, don't let me forget that God did not jip me of any time with Matt. God did not take him from me. I got two-and-a-half years longer than I ever deserved.
Now, I'm thankful that I said those words out loud. Because of course, I have struggled with that statement that I made, even still, almost exactly five years later. I've struggled with that truth. But that is the truth. I was not owed time with my husband. And God did not take something from me that I deserved. So going back to that was grounded in the truth of God's Word, that I'm not owed anything, and anything good that I have is not because of myself. It's because of Christ.
But absolutely, I did struggle with anger and questioning. I think in all of those questions, I was very discouraged because I wasn't just pouring hours of reading through God's Word. I couldn't, no. Sitting. Ah, here's vulnerability, sitting still with my thoughts just allowing truth to inform was so painful. It was good, but painful.
I confessed to one of my friends, “I feel guilty.” But I just have had to go back to the basics of the gospel to remember that Jesus loves me, to remember that Jesus died for me. And to remember that Jesus is better. That's what I was struggling with, that I wanted Matt. But I wanted to want Jesus more. And so that tension of knowing that Jesus is better, knowing that Jesus loves me. But I didn't feel it. So going straight back to the gospel, just over and over and over again.
I felt guilty, not pouring through deeper sections of Scripture, but really, every day was just reminding myself that Jesus did love me, that He did die for me. And if He never did anything beyond dying on the cross for me, I need a no greater proof that Jesus loves me than that He would do that.
Erin: I’ve said the same thing to myself many times: “Jesus, I will measure your love by the cross and Your power by the resurrection, not by any other litmus test of my own design. I know you love me, and I know you're willing to sacrifice for me.” You're just sharing that so beautifully to the Grounded sisters. We told you this was not a multitasking episode. I hope you've been stopped in your tracks as Carol Anne has been talking. But let's continue telling the story. You and Matt were traveling with an evangelistic team at the time of that accident. You continued to travel with baby Asa, even after his death? Why did you choose to do that?
Carol Anne: I didn't know any better. I know the Lord gave such wisdom in that decision. Obviously, I'm inundated with just the logistics of how to carry forward. I remember thinking, I can't wake up tonight by myself and give my son a bottle. I don't want to do this by myself. I can't do this by myself. And like I said, I had family on both sides that were just overwhelmingly helpful and physically lifted up my arms when I needed it, which is literally all the time. And so, my boss and his wife were here. They approached me when they were there for the funeral. I think, again, everything's a little blurry. I just presumed I wouldn't travel because at the time, Matt and I had a fifth wheel trailer that we pulled. That was our home. That was our first little home together, a little trailer. But I was like, I can't, I am not, I'm not driving a fifth wheel. So that to me, was just off the table.
And they said, “Carol Anne, what do you want to do?” Even though my parents were more than willing for me to stay at their house for as long as needed. I said, “I just I want to travel. It's been my days in and day out for the last two-and-a-half years. And that's the only thing that's the same.” Now I didn't have my husband, Asa didn't have his father, and I thought I'd lost my job, my ministry essentially. They were beyond gracious allow a widow of a few weeks with a 15-month-old son to come back on the road.
I was no good to the team. I cried through every service. I was a singer and played instruments. I just cried through every service and cried talking to people before and after. I couldn't do a whole lot of team responsibilities because I was a single mom. But they were so gracious in doing that. That was such a gift from God. No matter where I went, the Holy Spirit would have been with me, and God would have changed me and shaped me and protected me and comforted me. But my story being that they let me back on the team is so precious to me. Because the format of the team, you travel every Saturday to a new church and do what we did all week.
So, getting to experience the Church of Christ in a much broader sense than getting the gift of being at one place was that I experienced the body of Christ. I really believe I experienced a foretaste of what heaven will be like. I loved that fellowship. That camaraderie of people that I had never met before, knowing that we had the commonality of Jesus. There was that instant love and fellowship and sharing of burden and grief. That was so sweet.
He would let me share my testimony, just a little bit every week. That was so sweet to me to get to, from the get go, to actively praise the Lord. I have begun to say since then, as Jesus said, “You know, if you stop the people from worshiping Me, like rocks are gonna cry out.” I always think about those rocks and think I don't want to leave it up to the rocks. That's my job. And so it is my job and my privilege to praise the Lord for what He's doing. And even in those darkest, early days, I'm so thankful for the privilege that God gave me to be able to praise the Lord weekly, openly, for what he was doing in my life, even with the questions that I was greatly struggling through at the time.
Erin: That's that sacrifice of praise that Scripture talks about, “And yet I will praise You even though it feels like a sacrifice.” You mentioned planning the funeral. I’ve long been fascinated by the way joy and grief coexist at the funeral. I mean, there's so much sorrow, then you just somehow collectively turn the corner. There's laughter again, and it can mix together. But I'm realizing I don't personally know how to hold that tension very well—of joy and grief. I tend to be one or the other.
What did you learn about feeling joy in the valley of the shadow of death through your husband's death?
Carol Anne: So, there were parts of it that were so easy to focus on the joviality of the celebration of Matt's home going, even though there was such tragedy and trauma in the logistics of how that happened, for me, the fact that he was home. Because Matt was such a vibrant, lively soul, it was very, very easy to imagine that in his perfect state, getting to enjoy God Himself face to face.
So, one thing that we did for his celebration of life story, because Matt loves sugar and wood, constantly would hide in our house to sneak it. We just had like a whole table of candy out for everyone. So that was a lot of fun. That was a small logistic thing that we did the morning of his funeral. Seven days after the crash, I woke up and was trying to focus on his present reality. Because for me, in seeing the wreck again, not ever seeing Matt, but seeing the wreck, I really struggled with a lot of of nightmares, and reliving, even though I was not there, reliving a lot of that. So I was trying to focus on his present reality.
I don't remember what happened. It's just like a switch. When I found out what happened, it was a Holy Spirit. There was this sudden knowing that Matt was safe. It's not that God turned His back and allowed Matt to crash. God reserved His safety for Matt. Matt made it safely home. And for anyone who loves you greatly, there is no greater joy than to know that our loved ones are safely home.
Erin: Amen.
Carol Anne: So, that morning, the service was over. The casket was about to be wheeled down the aisle, and I was turning to follow. I looked at my mom, and they said my tears over him turned happy this morning. I was overwhelmingly thankful that he was safe. My husband was not handling this flesh anymore. He was not battling his sweet tooth anymore. He was in a perfect state, getting to see God face to face. And for the person that I love the most in the world, I couldn't think of a greater joy.
Erin: It's so beautiful, Carol Anne, and what a powerful story. You've beautifully illustrated through your life that joy and grief are not enemies. As Christians, we beautifully showcase both. We're heading into Christmas again. You've walked through that week of memories. What are you celebrating this year? What will you be having joy about on Christmas morning?
Carol Anne: Life, life here, life eternal for Matt, and heaven and the joy of knowing that I get to look forward to that for eternity. I did not say goodbye, logistically. I don't need to. As Christians, we have the hope of eternity with our loved ones, but most importantly with God Himself with Christ. I did get married two-and-a-half years after Matt's passing, and God did gift me with another child. Her name is Selah. Selah means to pause and praise. And remember, there's a long story behind her name. Matt and I had actually chosen the name Selah.
And so, when Mitchell, my second husband, told me he was interested, that was one of the stipulations. If I would allow him to get this baby girl of God, if God ever gives us a daughter, her name will be Selah. Her every day in my life is a constant reminder of the beautiful pause that God did give me in my life as a single mother. I thought I would never get the gift of having more children or someone else who loved me and would point me to Christ just as much, if not even more. So this Christmas season I'm just passing the fifth anniversary of Matt's home going, focusing on life and the fact that Jesus came to earth as a baby and lived a perfect life so that I can have life and life abundantly.
Erin: Amen. Just put our exclamation point there. What a beautiful story and you told it beautifully, gave God all the glory. Thanks for being with us, Carol Anne. Merry Christmas to you.
Carol Anne: Merry Christmas. Thank you so much for this privilege.
Erin: Yeah, you've been a joy to us. Portia.
Portia: I had this thought several times. Why did I put mascara on when am I gonna learn?
Dannah: Grounded sisterhood is in tears. They’re writing things in the comments like that just stopped me dead in my tracks. And I gotta read this. Janelle McClure wrote she said, “I will definitely be sharing this episode with a sweet friend who just last week had a state trooper arrive at her door saying her husband had been killed in a car accident. As I've watched her post, one post after another of trusting in the Lord, I have been so blessed. The picture of her holding her toddler in front of her husband's casket was so impactful. Listen, we need to pause and acknowledge that were it not for the birth of a baby over 2000 years ago, that was God in the flesh, we would have no hope in these hardships. But we do have hope we can have joy, because that baby was born.”
Portia: Yeah, so good is amen, amen. Well, this is typically the part in every episode when we pass along tools. But when you are deep in grief, what you need most is the Word of God. I'm a firm believer in that y'all. You need the Word of God. And you need encouragement from the people of God. And guess what? We want to give that to you right now?
Dannah: Yeah, we wish we could be with you in person, what joy that would give us to just gather together in a room with you and be able to hug you. And those of you that are grieving, to hold your sweet little faces and say, “It will get better. Jesus is with you in this darkness.” What would Christmas be without celebrations like that. And those of us who aren't carrying heavy grief, we would laugh and cry and hug and those of us who are we would hold you we would hold you up. We wanted to do the next best thing since we can't be together, and that is a digital candlelight service. So this is when you want to grab that candle.
Erin: Yep, grab a candle, grab something to light it with. Something keeps coming into my mind. I'm just gonna say it. When my mom first got diagnosed, I told my closest Christian friends, “When I cannot feast on the Word of God, I want you to force feed it to me.” And they have. They text to me; they write it down for me; they speak it to me. And that's why we would go ahead.
Dannah: So important, Erin, because you know, Carol Anne was explaining that your brain just can't do it. There are days when your brain is just so fogged with the grief. That unless that's actually by God.
Erin: You try, that's a mechanism in your body God's created to help you cope. So don't get ashamed of it. I would say.
Dannah: Let the friends that have the word on their tongue just give it to you as you need it. Be reliant on them.
Erin: That could have been the theme of this episode. Frankly, Carol Anne was sharing so beautifully about how the people of God reminded her of what was true, reminded her of the calling on her life. They force fed her those things when she couldn't eat at the table for herself. So, we're doing that together. If you're in the throes of grief, we're gonna force feed you if you're not able pick up a spoon and a fork and point others to help them feast on God's Word.
We do know that many of you catch Grounded in the podcast version. So, you're not going to see our candle lit faces. You have to use your imagination, or maybe this is an episode you want to go look up the video for on the Revive Our Hearts YouTube channel. But just imagine with us, women from all over the world because grounded is a global sisterhood. We are united by many things. But first and foremost, we are united by our love for Emmanuel Jesus, and we are united that he has worked in each of our lives and He continues to work in each of our lives. And just like Matt, He's going to carry each of us safely home to Him. So, picture us all standing by candlelight at dining room tables, at our desks, maybe in kitchens, and lighting a single candle to symbolize that we are the carriers, the bearers, the ambassadors of hope in Christ.
Portia: And to read a verse of hope from one of the most favorite apps. I have already lit my camera. I encourage you to light yours as we read. We are going to share in this moment together with you with our minds and our hearts focused on Jesus. And I pray that that brings you immense joy. So join us from Isaiah 9, verse 2, “The people walking in darkness, have seen a great light. A light has gone on those living in the land of darkness.”
Dannah: “You have enlarged the nation and increased its joy. The people have rejoiced before you as they rejoice at harvest time and as they rejoice when dividing spoils. For You have shattered their oppressive yoke and the rod on their shoulders, the staff of their oppressors just as you did on the day of Midian. For every trampling boot of battle, and the bloodied garments of war will be burned as fuel for the fire. That's Isaiah 9:3–5.
Erin: I occasionally get to be among the candle lighters at my own church during our candlelight service. As I whisper to my brothers which I know is the wrong holiday, but He is real. He is risen, and He is returning. That's why we have joy. So let me read verse 6. “For a child will be born to us, the son will be given to us, and the government will be on his shoulders. He will be named Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace . . .”
Portia: I'm struggling to hold it. “. . . the dominion will be vast and its prosperity will never end. He will reign on the throne of David and over his kingdom to establish and sustain it with justice and righteousness from now on and forever. The zeal of the Lord of Armies will accomplish this.”
Erin: Not only will it accomplish this; it has accomplished that so we have great joy today. We hope you have great joy. We love you. We love you very very much. And Jesus loves you even more, so we wanted to be among those who tell you Merry Christmas.
Dannah: Merry Christmas dear Grounded sisters we love you.
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